A Response to ‘Women Against Feminism.’

Imagine this:

The year is 2014. You are a white Western woman. You wake up in the morning in a comfortably sized house or flat. You have a full or part-time job that enables you to pay your rent or mortgage. You have been to school and maybe even college or university as well. You can read and write and count. You own a car or have a driver’s licence. You have enough money in your own bank account to feed and clothe yourself. You have access to the Internet. You can vote. You have a boyfriend or girlfriend of your choosing, who you can also marry if you want to, and raise a family with. You walk down the street wearing whatever you feel like wearing. You can go to bars and clubs and sleep with whomever you want.

Your world is full of freedom and possibility.

Then you pick up a newspaper or go online. You read about angry women ranting about sexism and inequality. You see phrases like ‘rape-culture’ and ‘slut-shaming.’ You furrow your brow and think to yourself: ‘What are they so angry about? There is no such thing as sexism anymore.’

Now imagine this:

The year is 2013. You are a 25 year-old Pakistani woman. A few months ago, you married the man you love. A man you choose for yourself. You are also pregnant with his child. You see your life stretching out before you, filled with hope and happiness. Suddenly, you and your husband are dragged away from each other. You are both beaten with bricks and batons. You can’t fight back. You can’t escape. No one comes to help you. Through your fading vision, you look up, and look into the eyes of one of your assailants: into the eyes of your father.

The year is 2013. You are a 23 year-old Indian woman. You are a physiotherapy student with a promising career ahead of you. You are sitting on a private bus travelling home alone on a warm December evening. You gaze out of the window as the buildings of New Dheli rush past you and feel content. Suddenly, a blunt force hits the back of your head and you fall to the floor of the bus. A group of strange men are standing over you. They bring the metal bar down on you again and again and again until all you can taste is the blood filling up your mouth. You pray that you will die soon. And you do, but not then. You are raped, beaten, and tortured over and over again. Death is slow and agonising.

The year is 2014. You are a 13 year-old girl from Niger. You no longer live there though. You are now living in the neighbouring country Nigeria, sitting alone in small room on a small bed in a small apartment high above the city of Kano. You are not allowed to leave. Your stomach is swollen from the unwanted life growing inside of it. You had no choice. The father is a man in his 40s. He is a businessman. He has bought you as his wife. You were a penniless, uneducated girl when he came for you. You don’t know of any life you could have had. Neither did your family: just one less mouth for them to feed. You still have the body of a child, and it’s straining under the pressure from the one inside of you. You feel like you’re about to be split in two. You don’t wonder if you will survive the birth. A part of you doesn’t want to.

These are fictionalised accounts of real events that have happened to real women living in our world today. They follow the past 250 years of women and men campaigning for women to be given equal rights to men to prevent these kinds of injustices and abuses on the grounds of gender taking place. Over the course of this time, campaigners – Feminists, both female and male – have been locked up, beaten, tortured, and even killed, in the pursuit of equality. They did this with pen and ink and print; they did this with their voices; they did this with their bodies; they did this with art and music; they did in courts of law and halls and houses of government that they fought be to allowed into.

They did this so that women would no longer been seen as property, livestock, breeding machines, sex objects, punching bags, or infantile morons. They did this not just for themselves, but also for their daughters, and their daughters, and their daughters for generations to come. They did this for women they would never meet – women who lived across countries, across vast oceans, across the entire globe, and even across time.

They did this so that women like me – a white Western woman – could attend school and university; to learn to read, write, and think critically; to gain a degree; to get a job and be paid an equal salary to a man in the same position; and to sit here with my own computer and type all of this.

Feminism is a movement for freedom, equality, choice, love, compassion, respect, solidarity, and education. We may argue, we may disagree, we may struggle to understand the choices and perspectives of others sometimes, but these core beliefs of the movement have never changed, and they never will.

That is why I am a Feminist.

If you feel that you have so far lived your life unaffected by even the mildest form of sexism – anything from feeling uncomfortable when a man catcalls you in the street, to feeling scared walking home alone at night in a secluded area – and are treated with love and respect by every man in your life, then to you I say: I’m glad for you. If you don’t think you need feminism, then that is a victory for the movement. You have fulfilled all those dreams that every suffragette being force-fed in prison and every ‘witch’ burnt at the stake dreamed you would one day.

But perhaps take a second to consider the life of the Pakistani woman who was beaten to death by her own family for marrying a man of her choosing. Or the life of the Indian woman who was raped, beaten, and murdered on a bus by a gang of men. Or the life of the little girl in Niger who was sold to a man more than twice her own age and forced to carry a baby that may kill her to deliver. Do they still need feminism?

And perhaps take a second to consider this too: Even in our liberal, Western world, why do women still only fill 24% of senior management jobs? Why are more women than men domestically abused or even killed every week at the hands of their male partner or ex-partner? Why is there still a pay gap (in the UK specifically) of 15% for women doing the same jobs and working the same hours as men?

And what about on a cultural level? Have you ever noticed how comedy panel shows usually only have one female panellist compared to 4-5 male ones? That almost every dieting product on the market is solely aimed at women? How a lot of newspapers and advertising campaigns will use a sexualised or pornographic image of a woman to sell news or products that have nothing to do with sex?

Or perhaps on a personal level: Do you choose to wear certain clothes because you want to or because you feel ‘unfeminine’ if you don’t? Do you choose to cover yourself up because you want to or because you feel ashamed or intimidated by a man looking at your body? Do you shave your legs and underarm hair because you want to or because you will look ‘ugly’ if you don’t? Did you parents dress you in pink as a baby because they liked the colour or because you were born a girl? Do you want to have children because you want to or because you are a woman?

When you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning, do you see yourself through your own eyes, or through the eyes of the men that will look at you when you walk out the door?

The fact is, like it or not, you still live a world where gender matters. Where gender controls not just the entire course of your life – but the lives of women all over the world. Every second, a child will be born female in a country where she will persecuted for this random biological occurrence for the rest of her life. So before you hold up your anti-Feminist placard proudly and smile at your own sense of empowerment, think not what Feminism can do for you, but what it can do for that one girl. She needs someone to stand up for her. That someone could be you.

UPDATE: Click here to read my follow up to this article: ‘Equalism: The Feminist Alternative?’


This is a response to ‘Women Against Feminism’ groups on Tumblr and Facebook.

The stories of the women mentioned in this post were sourced from these sites:

http://feminist.org/blog/index.php/2014/05/29/pakistani-woman-stoned-to-death-for-marrying-a-man-of-her-own-choosing/

http://feminist.org/blog/index.php/2013/01/02/indias-tipping-point-death-of-rape-victim-sparks-global-outrage/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-27619295

Other facts and statistics were sourced from here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/international-womens-day-2014-the-shocking-statistics-that-show-why-it-is-still-so-important-9177211.html

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  1. A Response to ‘Women Against Feminism.’ | Cironstone

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  2. triciatierney

    I gave up on reading through these comments just as I cannot bear to scroll through those silly tumbler photos with – yes, mostly white and (silly springs to mind again) girls holding up their posters.
    Heartbreaking how far we have fallen behind when we had yet to ever gain much ground as you so eloquently point out. It feels increasingly to me like a war on women across the world and I am angry. I’m glad you are too – it gives me hope.
    Your piece is a fine one. Thank you for writing it.

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  3. Jean

    Just give a micro example how we take our freedom of choice in life in the West, I talked about cycling and feminism: freedom for independent personal mobility.

    Cycling Lifestyle: Living an Unconscious Feminist Life

    Absolutely we have to look at some rights we live every day. As for ease in North America, if I may speak:

    I am the first generation of women and men in my family to be university educated, I have a great full-time paid career in jobs that I’ve been trained for, etc. I am a daughter of a picture bride from China: yes, my parents did not meet in person before they married. For some of us here in North America, we already come from immediate contact with other women in our family who have not been able to fully exercise their right…partially born in a more difficult time (there was war, poverty, etc.).

    I am Canadian and born a Canuck. Hence, fully, acutely aware of exercising my rights and decisions in life. I am feminist because my success is built on efforts of others.

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  4. nnmstudio

    Hi

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  5. GFoppy

    Reblogged this on Cruel Ultimatum and commented:
    I do not consider myself a feminist, because the whole feminist movement has a strong, underlying tone of arrogance and superiority: “our ideals are better than yours, you either support us or are against us”.

    I do consider myself an advocate for equality, that everyone should be given reasonably equal opportunities regardless of their sex, race, and religion.

    After reading the passionate post by the above blogger, I realise that this is what feminism should be all along: equality. Not to put males and their institutions down, but to simply champion for equal rights for women.

    I wish more organisations such as AWARE (I hate to bring those scum up again) would share the same mindset. Don’t waste time attacking National Service and Purple Light, what good does it serve to put others down? Help the ones who are already down on the ground, those who are under-privileged because of their sex.

    Because I also want equal rights for my future daughters and granddaughters.

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  7. jeremiah8777

    White western women ; have you checked back just a mere two hundred years ago some black southern women and men were raped and hung. Burned along, women that were with child by the white southern man. Was tide to a tree and there cut open at the swollen stomach just that see the baby fall out. O’ and then kill the child, would you like to hear what goes on today. No white man or WHITE WOMAN has ever been executed for killing a black western, eastern, southern, or Midwestern. Would you like to know how many black western, southern, eastern or midwestern men has been hung from 2000-2013? I didn’t think so your just a white western women who may have a boyfriend can go to a bar and have sex with any one and then go to bed in your home or apartment.

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  8. Jessy

    That still does not justify the one-sided tunnel vision of feminism. I hate any particular terminology that gives a certain gender superiority, weather it being men or women. Yes, it is 2014… How about coming up with a new “humanism” instead for God’s sake!!! Isn’t it time for a gender-less agendas???

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  9. Angela

    I agree that the wage gap between men and women is wrong, I think the sense of entitlement many men feel to a woman’s body is wrong, I think we should focus on the women like the stories mentioned here whose lives are in serious danger. What makes me slightly hesitant to call myself a feminist is that I don’t think believing in basic human rights needs a label. Do we need a label for wanting to help abuse victims, child brides, and potential victims of honor killings? Do I really need a label for letting my daughter pick toys out of the “girls aisle” and the “boys aisle” at the store because I don’t care if she’d rather play with dolls, tool kits, or both?

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  10. Charlie Nicholas

    It’s 2014. You are a trans woman. Enough said.

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    1. Traverse Davies

      Keep in mind that many in Feminism don’t view Trans women as real women and many in the MRM do.

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      1. Charlie Nicholas

        It doesn’t matter what others think. We have studies in biology, neurology, and other hard sciences that unequivocally show that trans women are still women. (Psychology aside, that is.) The equipment they have occurs less often with women but that does NOT invalidate their identities. It is an extension of hermaphroditism.

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  11. Mandy

    Reblogged this on Staying on course and commented:
    I’ve been trying to verbalise exactly why the whole ‘Women Against Feminism’ frustrates me, but I don’t have to. This post does it for me.

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  12. H.L. Brooks

    Fantastic blog. People who keep insisting that feminism elevates women above men do not know what they are saying. That’s not true.

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  13. Franny

    I get what the article is saying – but we also need to remember we women are our own worst enemies, we judge each other harshly (cover up, shave and dress so as to not be stigmatised, criticised or judged negatively). We call women with beautiful voluptuous figures fat & praise the very thin (naturally or not, it doesn’t matter) – forgetting all forms are beautiful. Men aren’t the only ones that objectify women – we too objectify ourselves.

    I’ll finish my rant by saying I am thankful for what has been achieved by the feminist movement thus far and am sure it will achieve much more in years to come for the benefit of future generations. And just because I’m not outspoken or overtly involved doesn’t mean I don’t support it or help in my own small ways. But we need to not forget our own folly’s as women and the pressure we place upon ourselves and each other. Love, support and encourage each other. Stop shaming and blaming.

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  14. dontkilmavibe

    Reblogged this on Is this real life? and commented:
    Such an important message for women around the world. Just because we aren’t experiencing this, does not mean it’s not happening to our sisters around the world.

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  15. dontkilmavibe

    Very powerful article. Thank you for sharing 🙂 Gladly shared on my blog!

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  16. poetbfb

    their are two very different images of feminism which exist in the world.
    Some have taken feminism to be the fight for superiority over men, which it is not.
    They have transformed feminists from people who are striving for equality and freedom to a highly warped image of a group which wants superiority and control

    And at this point, my questions to the anti-feminists are, what exactly are you fighting for, and who are you going against?

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  17. Sarah

    The most ridiculous article I might have ever come across yet! Listen, girls, it is not empowering to always play the victim – ” oh, this is so unfair”, ” we need to fight for equal rights”. Give me a break!
    There is much more dignity in accepting the fact that we are the weaker gender, the helpers – this is just the way we were created. We can never be equal to men – we will just fail because … WE ARE NOT MEN! Why would there be two genders with different characteristics if they, supposedly, have to be equal in every area! Yes, we are equally valuable as human beings before God – the Creator – but we were just not created with the same functions. Men can lead a family properly and take care of the provision of the living but at the same time only women were created to keep a household together and bear children. Some of the things men gotta do are physically impossible for women to do and the other way around. As I said, there is so much more dignity in a woman who knows her place and does the things she is supposed to do joyfully as well as supporting her family than a woman who is trying to prove that she’s something she can’t possibly be as well as always playing the victim. I know there are many injustices around the world where women are treated horribly but at the same time there will always be people suffering around the world that need to be helped (including men!!!and by the way why not mention he thousands if Christians who are persecuted for their faith?!) And it is nessesary that someone does help them. But there is no way feminism can – it only poisons the society with the wrong idea of equality when there cannot be such, with rebellion against the order of creation – the order God has made. It does not help the actual victims it only ruins the foundations of the family, the family like The Lord has intended it to look.

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  18. elysium305

    Very well written!
    I just wanted to say that the example you gave about the Indian woman who was raped is not only applicable in India, but all over the world. Some people have a wrong notion about India that girls get raped left and right on the street. However, that is not true.

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  19. heather

    http://sfglo.be/G1

    This same thing has happened to me and im a white educated western woman. So if you want to say that we dont experience inequality than you are blind in your own fantasy land my dear

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    1. Traverse Davies

      That video is a terrible example, and probably shouldn’t be used. It’s fiction. It’s a government produced propaganda piece (the Croatian government) and the women is an actress using makeup. This isn’t saying that things like that don’t happen, of course they do… but that video does the exact opposite of proving the point.

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  20. DK

    It’s completely untrue that there’s a “pay gap (in the UK specifically) of 15% for women doing the same jobs and working the same hours as men”.

    This figure is the average (mean) pay difference across all jobs, and to a large extent reflects different choices that men and women make.

    One of the major criticisms of feminism is that it uses false and misleading statistics to exaggerate women’s victimhood in the Western world. It’s a bit ironic to see such a blatant misuse of the statistics in a piece defending the ideology.

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  21. Veronica G

    Reblogged this on Diary of Veronica and commented:
    Some of the things i read online and it makes me wanna cry!!

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  22. Veronica G

    Amazing!!! Beautiful and perfectly said!!!!

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  23. punjabifunivines

    Very True ……. well said and thank you for sharing this. So many people really needs to know what feminism really is.
    I am from India and living in Canada. When that incident happened to that girl in bus i was in India that time. she was rapped by 3-4 people in bus and she died …….. i cried for so many days and i cannot forget that incident she was a brave girl and a bright student. i was scared too because in India anything can happen at any time. Girls are not safe. People are crazy and they don’t care and no one helps you in bad situations. Police is worst in India and no good law to stop crimes against women. I always traveled with my brother or my father, you cannot go there by yourself. That rape case in not only one incident , those kind of incidents or crimes happens in every hour….
    I was born there i know why its important to any women. the only reason is i am in Canada because India is worst country for women and girls. i am living alone in Canada, my parents sent me here because Canada is a safe country. I am living alone without family because that place is worst . i know what Feminism means to me. Nobody wants to leave their own country where there family and friends lives but i am a girl and born in India this is the worst part of my life.
    I am educated, have degree, i am came here to Canada for Study ,, I don’t know what is my future, may be i have to go back to India because of immigration rules but i don’t want to go back in that hell.
    So i support feminism and always will be………
    And thank for sharing this with us……..

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  24. denisefrombolton

    reblogged on denisefrombolton.com/

    My initial reaction to this blogpost was that it reminded me of the equality my generation fought for in the 1960’s, Sometimes when I watch my daughter run around juggling childcare and full time work, I wonder if we were right to challenge traditional attitudes towards gender, but this blogpost reminds me that we WERE right ….. Then I read the replies…..

    I doubt that any of the people that disagree with the blogger know what it feels like have to be barred from doing anything simply because of their gender, as my generation were, in education, jobs and relationships. . Todays UK women and men have the CHOICE, whether they chose more traditional gender specific roles or wish to explore a more “non traditional” path. ( I use the quote marks because traditional role are no longer clearly defined) Of course there are still improvement to be made but in the main we have come a long way with equality. Today’s young women and men have no idea that they take for granted the freedoms that their grandparents only dreamed of.

    This is what we fought for, simply the CHOICE and changing the attitude that women or men were incapable of doing certain things. I think we have blown those myths away.

    Of course there were always extremists, as there are in any organisation, but usually in the end the moderate voice wins. I had to google “women against feminism” and felt sad that the misandrists who use the label “feminists” have created such a backlash with women against feminism, who it would seem are missing the point

    Just on a corrective note. For many generations my white working class female ancestors have always had to earn a living as well as looking after children, either in exploitative jobs, on the land or by running their own businesses. The “white middle class” image of the stay at home wife and mother supported by her corporate husband was a post war 1950’s Hollywood fantasy designed to promote a feeling of security in the status quo after the chaos of WW2.
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    My Mother always worked and as a child I considered women who did not work as lazy. My father also worked, was hands on with childcare and organisation of the household, he had a great respect for all women. I was shocked o discover that the world and Hollywood did not share this view.

    Peace and love to everyone.
    Denise

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  25. Nix

    Thank you for this this was very eloquently written and very insightful.

    I considered myself a feminist as a teen and had a lot anger toward men and perceived sexism but that all changed when I moved in with a couple of them and realised that men aren’t all sexist ( but the majority of them ARE wind up merchants).
    I must admit that at one stage in my life I was guilty of “no longer needing feminism” The stereotype of feminism as a man – hating culture was very prevalent just a few years ago, and because I did not hate the men in my life, I couldn’t align myself with it. I chose to use the word egalitarian because I wanted to stand up for the rights of all persecuted and oppressed people. It seemed that it was a nice umbrella to suit all.

    I actually think these placards have been a good thing for feminism because it has re-aligned our perception of the movement to what it actually intended to achieve in the first place. We are beginning to talk about feminism in a grown up way instead of picturing the mad woman yelling “SEXIST” at a someone because he held a door open for her. And moreover, there are more men coming out as feminists.

    I still consider my self as humanist or egalitarian because I personally choose to ignore someone’s gender as a factor when I speak to them. That is the kind of place I want to live in – where you really don’t need feminism, because gender doesn’t even come into the equation. I see “femininity” as a personal quality completely unrelated to what’s between your legs and each person is a mixture of both masculine and feminine attributes.

    However you are absolutely right, in this day and age, gender is still unfortunately a massive obstacle to overcome and just because I see people as people doesn’t mean everyone does. This more grown up, raw version of feminism is something I feel comfortable with. I can say I am a feminist without feeling like I’m betraying or persecuting my male friends. I am happy to say I am a feminist not because I hate men, but because I stand for women who are still classed as second class citizens.

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  26. secularism

    I think what those women being stoned need is atheism, not a religion which advocates torture and death. Come on people this is the twenty first century just become Westernised already.

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  27. Duarte Molha

    I personally do not think the struggle for equality is over. But being a man in a relatively progressive and liberal country like the UK I do get upset with campaigns by feminist movements that portrait my gender somehow we are all narcissistic chauvinistic pigs like the one that happened after Elliot Rodger went on a killing spree. And even though he killed man and women, a campaign started using his insanity to somehow equate it to a lack of equality between man and women.

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  28. Charlie Kingsbury

    Reblogged this on The Liberal's Guide to the Galaxy.

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  29. Jodie Watts

    This is not about feminism, this is about human rights.

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  30. Lars

    Good article, I’d only change the title to “A Response to ‘People Against Feminism’ “. The male gender cares too!

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  31. Harry

    Women aren’t on comedy shows because they are not funny, how can you complain when you can get away with hitting males and males go to jail for hitting you? Don’t think you’ve got it too bad.

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  32. Ale Valentini

    An amazing post. As a feminist man, I thank you so much. I want to stand behind women like you. I hope I’ll be able to change the mind of even one single male, to make a difference. Of course, the walk has to be lead by women.

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  33. Megan

    Reblogged this on notinabox and commented:
    Too true. Wonderfully put…

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  34. GrannyGamer1

    don’t fight, argue with, antifeminist women! Don’t be divisive. Work toward solutions. Do not engage in public “cat fights” for the amusement of MRAs! Do NOT.

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  35. keeleywilliams

    Reblogged this on keeleywilliams's Blog and commented:
    feminism- the life’s women have and are having no choice. Freedom compassion love. Why do people feel the need to ruin a life so beautiful in order of power status. These stories and others I have heard about are so heart breaking. But women are strong we can cope with alot more then men emotionally. People need to open their hearts and have more knowledge and a bigger understanding of the meaning of feminism and understand feel how alot of women girls are living.

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  36. aravindileep

    I am happy that I could read this article about faminism. It clearly depicts the need of feminism to this world.
    But lot of activities lack these qualities. It does not feel like they are looking for equality. Emphasis is done on thee vulgar part. “we want to sit like this”, “we want to dress like this”,”what if I walk like this” these are the usual battlecries. They will not inspire anybody to cooperate. The message should be regarding the difficulties faced not the desire for luxury.
    Nyways all the best to feminism. ..
    #PEACE#

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  37. n

    This is brilliant. You’ve just summed up everything I thought about that ‘women against feminism’ campaign but couldn’t put into words. So thank you!

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  38. 4th Wave crasher

    Rights debates often get bogged down with dogma and pedantry.

    I am a man brought up in a feminist household in the 70s and 80s.

    My mother had The Female Eunich on her shelf so one day I decided to read it.

    For SURE it opened my eyes.

    For SURE those at the fore on the major rights debates are bringing *new information* to the table.

    One aspect of this is that they are telling “you” something new they know about you that you were unaware of.

    Very few egos can deal with people acting like they know more about them than their own self.

    Imagine somebody revealing an insight about you that has negative connotations/consequences that you were unaware of?
    That’s where “not all men” responses are coming from.

    Now is not the time to tell you about the sexual abuse I suffered from a woman, or that no male friend of mine would ever disrespect a woman.

    But it is time to say we need CLARITY on cultural appropriation vs cultural diffusion and CLARITY on what makes for good boundaries to set.

    It is a problem in the *presentation* of feminism me thinks.

    Equality struggles have an inherent “unattractiveness” quality to them.
    Empowerment is cool, for sure, but you have to make it a bandwagon people are “attracted” to.

    Rights debates are fraught with conflict and much personal emotion.

    Every protest I’ve been involved with still has that euphoric “crowd contact euphoria” element that feeds off “belonging” “engagement” and “identity.”

    But…

    I like to be judged by how I act in life, not how I handle a rights debate.

    No woman has ever accused me of being sexist in action.

    However, the wrong slip of the tongue (using the word “chick”) for example, back in the 90s… And my ” feminist” roomate , recently fresh to learning about privilege and rights issues suddenly pounces in me! Calls me out on my objectionable word. I apologize and HAVE NEVER USED that word in front of a stranger who doesn’t know the real me, since.

    Yet, same “feminist” roommate…
    She doesn’t pay her bills, harbours a dead-beat unemployed temp boyfriend in her room who eats all our food even after we have expressly said we rented the room for only one occupant, does a runner without paying rent… And I’m supposed to be impressed with her after having totally stopped using the word “chick” in casual speech outa respect for her request?

    Meaning: nobody is 100% feminist, gay, cis, American, or any cultural value.

    Having said all that, yes, sexism exists all around me and as an awake, and informed fellow of the species, I stand with the women’s rights movement in ATTRACTING more people to this reality (rape-culture/social bullying/public nuisances).

    My love partner identifies as hardcore radical feminist.
    But that is just an “identity”
    In real action she speaks for the equality of all walks of life.

    None of her cohorts could be described as anti-men.
    Mostly I would describe the movement she runs with as
    “People against assholes”

    The meditation continues…

    (Sharing this)

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  39. Pramoda

    As a person coming from Indian sub continent, this piece is extremely offensive and racist. May be you are too ignorant to see that but I initially thought feminists are not racists.
    Are you trying to throw the whole 3rd world under the bus just to make a point, just to save your argument?
    Of course those incidents happened in those countries and they are awfully horrible acts. But does that mean everyone in those countries are like that, or are you trying to say that kind of behavior is the normality in those countries? You can cherry pick anything you want and I can cherry pick few from US and make a generalization. But is it fair?
    The problem with 3rd world is corrupt leadership, regardless of whether they are men or women. When that gang rape happened, India was under defacto rule of Sonia Ghandi, who is a woman. And Bangladesh was under woman’s rule when that horrendous garment factory collapsed. Few other countries are ruled by corrupt men as well. They are so power hungry and they serve to themselves and their inner circle. The law and order in these countries down in the drain. As I mentioned earlier, gang rape is a horrible crime but in these countries thousands of other types of horrible things happen to people regardless of their gender. Millions of young kids die in hunger. Workers conditions are so poor. But the general population have a big heart and they will always greet you if you visit there as a tourist. Few rapes happen as in any other country but that is not normalcy. At least not in the frequency that western media is trying to highlight.
    Even if there are massive gender discrimination happens as you claim, what do you suggest as a solution. Sending one of your western armies to save our woman? And kill all “ban” men and boys? We have seen how your noble causes played out in Iraq and Afghanistan. You people came to “save” those countries but ultimately ended up in killing millions of innocent civilians.
    I politely suggest you to educate yourself or pay a visit to these countries and see for your self rather than getting your “facts” from CNN, BBC and other western media in the comfort of your living room. Trust me, this part of the world, not only women suffer. We all suffer and part of that problem is inherited from 19th century colonization by Europeans. And guess what, for most parts India was under ruthless British rule, UK was under a queen’s rule!

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  40. A Response to ‘Women Against Feminism.’ | sowjanyanatives

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  41. Kristen

    Still it concerns mostly human rights in general… there are a great deal of urgent problems not related specifically to the gender one

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  42. Maia Snowdrop

    Thank you for this. Voices like yours are much needed within yet another cycle of backlash.

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  43. Rene

    Wouldn’t it be better to stop arguing about who is or isn’t a feminist, or the definition of the word ‘feminism’, and just focus on getting equal opportunities for women, regardless of what you call it. It reminds me of the endless arguments between the Atheist Humanist and the Christian about the word ‘God’. The Atheist says that they don’t believe in God, because they don’t believe in an old man in the sky who’s waiting to strike you down. The Christian also does not believe in an old man in the sky waiting to strike you down, and says that God is Love. The Atheist Humanist and the Christian both believe in Love, but rather than agreeing to focus on Love, they bicker about believing/not believing in the word ‘God’, which is defined differently by the two groups anyway. Why not just forget the F word, and focus on the word that both ‘Feminists’ and ‘Anti-Feminists’ can agree on = Equality. Screw semantics.

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  44. john

    One of the gripes that may be unmentioned from women against feminism is that the life as the housewife is actually no longer affordable in the western society, and that work for a wife is no longer an option but a nescessity.

    And that the sucess in the pursuit of equality has simply resulted in a doubling of the required work hours per family.

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  45. Katherine

    This article is very shocking! I didn’t read half of it because i realised that i was reading garbage!
    For example – ‘Most dieting products are aimed at women.’ Paraphrased.
    What about protein drinks? 99% of protein drinks are aimed at men because every year men are more and more pressurised by the media to get in to the gym and build a lot of muscle. Do you hear guys whinging about sexism? No! Of course you don’t.

    ‘Feminism’ has it’s place. Not in the western world because there is no need for it. It has it’s place in areas that also have many other issues/social restrictions.

    Western world feminism is like veganism. The people of these cults attempt to shove their thoughts and opinions down our throats. None of us want it, we get sick of it and hence why they receive such negative responses.

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  46. Nigel Collins

    Great article and very thought provoking.

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  47. vagabondemma

    Reblogged this on Vagabond Emma and commented:
    A powerful and interesting response piece to the very weird “Women against feminism” movement

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  48. Clo

    um…imagine its 2014 and you wake up an american woman in New York City. It’s hot and humid outside and you put on shorts knowing full well this will increase the street harassment and draw eyes from all the men hanging out on the streets. You grab your headphones to drown out the unavoidable catcalling and take a route that will have the least amount of loitering old men hissing/yelling out to you and walk the two long blocks to the subway.

    It’s 2013 Or say you are an American woman (who’s black and wears her hair natural) and you’re headed out at night to meet up with friends in meatpacking district for a show that the guy your dating is putting. You are super late so you decide to take a taxi. Finally, a taxi driver pulls up and tells you that the backdoor is broken and to sit in the front. He starts driving then all of a sudden reaches over without warning to put his hands through your hair. Having to deal with this experience at least once every time you go out, you develop an instinct to see it when it comes and block his hands out of the way and ask him not to touch you. He claims that you are too angry and need to relax and then asks if you have a boyfriend. You say yes its who you are meeting up with and if he could drive faster (you’re on a freeway) and he tells you “make sure you fu&k him real good after the show, okay sweetheart?”

    It’s 2014, Imagine your an American woman (white) and you go to a prestigious university. Its a Friday night and you and your friends decide to go to a houseparty at a fraternity house. Your crush is there and you decide to initiate a conversation with him. He grabs you a red cup of ‘jungle juice’ and you’re excited its going well. Things start to fade. You wake up the next morning with no memory of what happened that night with your underwear off. You believe you’ve been raped and tell the school. You don’t have any proof but the school has to follow policy. Frat gets minor penalizations, you’re parents are disappointed, you get backlash from all the fraternity’s and everyone blames you for being so careless. You become just another 1 of 3 women in America who will be raped and no real justice system to hold these perpetrators accountable.

    It’s not just an international problem. Domestic abuse, rapes, killings happen everyday in Western society. To overlook the issues that are just as prevalent here and pity the situations in other countries reduces our abilities to solve the problems.

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  49. anon

    This is well said, but most people fighting sexism are fighting it for white women in America. I have not seen people fighting for women in India or Niger.

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  50. C.

    Reblogged this on Small Dog Syndrome and commented:
    Sums it up.

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